30 Kasım 2009
Dün itibariyle dikişlerinden ve kafasındaki tasmadan tamamen kurtuldu Topicik. Halen idrarında kan var. İki haftalık mücadelemiz sonunda Topinin durumunun iyiye gittiğini düşünmek istiyorum. 2 hafta boyunca sayısız veteriner ziyareti yapıldı, elle beslendi, hergün odası sterilize edildi. Bu zorlu dönemin sonunda onun iyi olduğunu görmek en büyük dileğimiz. Bize şans dileyin ve pozitif enerjinizi ve dualarınızı çok aciler çekmiş olan minik Topiciğe yollayın...
29 Kasım 2009
17 Aralık 2009 Salı akşamı, ameliyat sonrası Topi evde. Halen narkoz ve ağrıkesicilerin etkisinde, çok yorgun, ayağa kalkmakta zorlanıyor. Yastığın üzerinde hareketsiz şekilde katıyor. Başındaki tasma dikişlerini sökmesini engellenmek için. Ameliyat yerlerinin görüldüğü fotoğrafları buraya koymuyorum çünkü ben de bakarken yüreğim parça parça oluyor.
18 Kasım 2009
Ameliyat!
Merak eden sevgili dostlara haberi vermek isterim: Topi dün 2 saat süren ciddi bir ameliyat geçirdi. Rahim ve yumurtalıkları alındı. Şu an karnında koca bir dikiş, kafasında kocaman bir plastik başlık ve kolunda bir iğne ile iyileşmeye çalışıyor!
Operasyon İstanbul Üniversitesi Veterinerlik Fakültesinde gerçekleşti. Tüm hekimlere ve çalışanlara tekrar tekrar teşekkür ederiz. Operasyon sırasında ben Topiciğin yanında değildim (inanması zor, ama değildim).
Babam ise veterinerlik fakülteyi çok beğenmiş ve Topi'ye gösterdikleri ilgi ve sevgiden çok duygulanmış. (Topi gibi bir melek nasıl sevilmez ki zaten) Topi'nin durumu profesörler ve uzmanlar tarafından incelenmiş, öğrencilere gösterilmiş.
İşten döndüğümde Topi veterinere götürdüğümüz kutusunun içinde yarıbaygın halde yatar vaziyette buldum. Çok yürek burkan bir görüntüydü. Şimdi tavşan-severler üzülmesin ama tavşanını ameliyat ettirmek isteyen arkadaşlar varsa kendilerini bu görüntüye hazırlasınlar. Sonra biraz hareketlenmeye başladı ve kendisini kafesin dışına ittire ittire çıkartmaya çalışmaya başladı. Karnının üzerinde oturabilmeye çalışıyor ama ayakta duramıyor... Müthiş diş gıcırtıları eşkliğinde biraz daha dinleniyor, sonra tekrar herzamanki pozisyonuna gelmeye çalışıyor.
Sonra kafesten çıktı yavaş yavaş. Kocaman bir yastık hazırlamış annem, onun üzerine yatırdık yavaşça. Bu şekilde istirahat etti, ona babamın odasında çok güzel bir yer yaptık. Sonra yastıktan inerek babamın odasında ufak ufak dolanmaya başladı arka ayaklarını sürüyerek. Babamı odası evin en sevdiği ve rahat ettiği yeri. Odadaki halı onun için çok kıymetlidir. Bu yüzden onun iyileşene kadar orada kalmasına karar verdik.
İlk 24 saat geçtikten sonra biraz su içmiş ve dereotu yemiş. İlk defa çişini yapmış. (yuppi!) Kafasındaki başlığa kızmaya başlamış çünkü yalanıp temizlenmesine engel oluyor.
Bugün veterinere gitti. 3 gün boyunca serum, antibiyotik ve ağrıkesici iğnesi yapılıyor. Cuma günü tekrar veteriner fakültesine götürecek babam. Ve umuyoruz en kısa zamanda eski haline dönecek.
Bizden haberler bu kadar. Herkese iyi dilekleri ve duaları için teşekkür ediyoruz...
Operasyon İstanbul Üniversitesi Veterinerlik Fakültesinde gerçekleşti. Tüm hekimlere ve çalışanlara tekrar tekrar teşekkür ederiz. Operasyon sırasında ben Topiciğin yanında değildim (inanması zor, ama değildim).
Babam ise veterinerlik fakülteyi çok beğenmiş ve Topi'ye gösterdikleri ilgi ve sevgiden çok duygulanmış. (Topi gibi bir melek nasıl sevilmez ki zaten) Topi'nin durumu profesörler ve uzmanlar tarafından incelenmiş, öğrencilere gösterilmiş.
İşten döndüğümde Topi veterinere götürdüğümüz kutusunun içinde yarıbaygın halde yatar vaziyette buldum. Çok yürek burkan bir görüntüydü. Şimdi tavşan-severler üzülmesin ama tavşanını ameliyat ettirmek isteyen arkadaşlar varsa kendilerini bu görüntüye hazırlasınlar. Sonra biraz hareketlenmeye başladı ve kendisini kafesin dışına ittire ittire çıkartmaya çalışmaya başladı. Karnının üzerinde oturabilmeye çalışıyor ama ayakta duramıyor... Müthiş diş gıcırtıları eşkliğinde biraz daha dinleniyor, sonra tekrar herzamanki pozisyonuna gelmeye çalışıyor.
Sonra kafesten çıktı yavaş yavaş. Kocaman bir yastık hazırlamış annem, onun üzerine yatırdık yavaşça. Bu şekilde istirahat etti, ona babamın odasında çok güzel bir yer yaptık. Sonra yastıktan inerek babamın odasında ufak ufak dolanmaya başladı arka ayaklarını sürüyerek. Babamı odası evin en sevdiği ve rahat ettiği yeri. Odadaki halı onun için çok kıymetlidir. Bu yüzden onun iyileşene kadar orada kalmasına karar verdik.
İlk 24 saat geçtikten sonra biraz su içmiş ve dereotu yemiş. İlk defa çişini yapmış. (yuppi!) Kafasındaki başlığa kızmaya başlamış çünkü yalanıp temizlenmesine engel oluyor.
Bugün veterinere gitti. 3 gün boyunca serum, antibiyotik ve ağrıkesici iğnesi yapılıyor. Cuma günü tekrar veteriner fakültesine götürecek babam. Ve umuyoruz en kısa zamanda eski haline dönecek.
Bizden haberler bu kadar. Herkese iyi dilekleri ve duaları için teşekkür ediyoruz...
17 Kasım 2009
Pyometra (Piyale Madra??)
Pyometra konusundaki sorularım ve gelen cevaplar:
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Hello everyone,
I recently posted a question about our bun 'purring' . Thank you all for your answers and comments. Here is another question, and I'm afraid this one is quite a problem.
Our 5 year old female Dutch has been diagnoses with pyometra: infection of the uterus causin puss and blood in urine. She hasn't been fixed, and I know this was a mistake but please don't fuss about this. We were aware of the high health risks of not doing so, but we couldn't find a vet who has experience on rabbits, back when she was younger. We are taking a really good care of her and she was a happy little girl, until recently where she became sort of distant and depressed. That's when we noticed the blood on the urine and took her to the vet immediately.
Vet prescribed her some antibiotics which stoped the bleeding, however he said that this was only a temporary cure. He said that our bun needs to go through a hysterectomy (removal of the uterus). Although we trust our new vet, I have researched and found another vet from Faculty of Veterinaty Medicine who has a lot of experience with rabbits. I just spoke to him on the phone and told him the whole story. He asked me to get her to the faculty for ultrasound screening and bloodwork before he could say anything. He said Pyometra is an agressive disease but depending on the seriousness, she would either has to have an operation or could get by with medical treatment (I hope so!)
We are very nervous and sad about this whole issue and would appreciate comments and information, especially about the hysterectomy and aftercare.I know the time after the surgery is critical and become quite complicated if she gets an infection. I went through Etherbun archives but I didn't come accross too much information and wanted to ask if anyone/anybun had a similar experience.
Ipek
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without knowing too many details i would always go for entire removal rather than try to keep this uterus. she may well need aggressive antibiotic care anyway afterwards due to the condition without unnecessarily keeping the infected tissue in her body. i would have her spay done (very commonly done in bunnies now), make sure she has plenty of pain meds afterwards as well as antibiotics. i dont see what bloodwork would add to this information and i think it is a matter of urgency to remove this infected tissue. just my opinion from a distance.
dani
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I agree with Dani, I'd treat this as a very urgent matter and remove her uterus as soon as possible, then deal with complications from that later. I've become paranoid about adhesions forming because of pyometra though, a rat I had a few years ago had her ureters adhered to her uterus and we ended up not being able to help her. The longer you wait, the longer something else could go wrong.
Heather Guy
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Dear Ipek... I personally know someone whose bunny died years after she survived cancer froma later in life hysterectomy. This bunny lived to be 14 yrs old and had been cancer free half her life with my friend. Hope this helps...if you like, you can write to me off list.
Teri, Bunkie and Maddox
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Hi Ipek, I am so sorry to hear your bunny is not well. I found a site with some great information on Pyometra and bunnies.
http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/Uro_gen_diseases/Bacterial_diseases/endometritis.PDF
Aftercare from a spay is very easy; the most important thing is to check those stitches every few hours to make sure bunny is not pulling them out. I'd do this for the whole first week.
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Hello Teri,
Thank you for sharing this info with me. I was very nervous about the operation but I felt that it was unfair to my little Topi to drag her through all this discomfort and pain. So today we'll be seing the vet and probably get the operation.
It was really helpful for me to know that there are examples of bunnies getting hysterectomies later in life and surviving. I'm a strong believer that good care and love works wonders in healing process, and I hope I'm right and my girl will get better soon.
Ipek & Topi
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Dear Ipek,
I'm glad you were able to talk to your vet. When Bunkie had her operation same as yours done, I kept phoning the vet's office and asking about my baby. They wouldn't let me see her which is understandable because they look frightening to us because we don't get to see them in that state. Bunkie looked like Kieth Richards from the Rolling Stones because she was so....stoned looking? LOLOL I stayed up VERY late to make sure she went toilet and drank some water. Then--when I wanted to pick her up I gently put a towell under he and used it like a hoist up so her weight was even and her stitches weren't upset.
But most bunnies recover faster than Bunkie did. You will have trouble keeping her still! All the best, Teri Bunkie and Maddox
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I'm glad you have trust in your vet, that is very important.
My only suggestion is to make sure she is going to recover well from the surgery, is it worth it? Will she have more good days than bad? I hope the answer to both of these will be YES!
You are in our thoughts and prayers, keep us updated on everything.
Liz in Massachusetts
Cinder - the Lion Head
Lily - the Flemish Giant
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Hello everyone,
I recently posted a question about our bun 'purring' . Thank you all for your answers and comments. Here is another question, and I'm afraid this one is quite a problem.
Our 5 year old female Dutch has been diagnoses with pyometra: infection of the uterus causin puss and blood in urine. She hasn't been fixed, and I know this was a mistake but please don't fuss about this. We were aware of the high health risks of not doing so, but we couldn't find a vet who has experience on rabbits, back when she was younger. We are taking a really good care of her and she was a happy little girl, until recently where she became sort of distant and depressed. That's when we noticed the blood on the urine and took her to the vet immediately.
Vet prescribed her some antibiotics which stoped the bleeding, however he said that this was only a temporary cure. He said that our bun needs to go through a hysterectomy (removal of the uterus). Although we trust our new vet, I have researched and found another vet from Faculty of Veterinaty Medicine who has a lot of experience with rabbits. I just spoke to him on the phone and told him the whole story. He asked me to get her to the faculty for ultrasound screening and bloodwork before he could say anything. He said Pyometra is an agressive disease but depending on the seriousness, she would either has to have an operation or could get by with medical treatment (I hope so!)
We are very nervous and sad about this whole issue and would appreciate comments and information, especially about the hysterectomy and aftercare.I know the time after the surgery is critical and become quite complicated if she gets an infection. I went through Etherbun archives but I didn't come accross too much information and wanted to ask if anyone/anybun had a similar experience.
Ipek
---
without knowing too many details i would always go for entire removal rather than try to keep this uterus. she may well need aggressive antibiotic care anyway afterwards due to the condition without unnecessarily keeping the infected tissue in her body. i would have her spay done (very commonly done in bunnies now), make sure she has plenty of pain meds afterwards as well as antibiotics. i dont see what bloodwork would add to this information and i think it is a matter of urgency to remove this infected tissue. just my opinion from a distance.
dani
---
I agree with Dani, I'd treat this as a very urgent matter and remove her uterus as soon as possible, then deal with complications from that later. I've become paranoid about adhesions forming because of pyometra though, a rat I had a few years ago had her ureters adhered to her uterus and we ended up not being able to help her. The longer you wait, the longer something else could go wrong.
Heather Guy
---
Dear Ipek... I personally know someone whose bunny died years after she survived cancer froma later in life hysterectomy. This bunny lived to be 14 yrs old and had been cancer free half her life with my friend. Hope this helps...if you like, you can write to me off list.
Teri, Bunkie and Maddox
---
Hi Ipek, I am so sorry to hear your bunny is not well. I found a site with some great information on Pyometra and bunnies.
http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/Uro_gen_diseases/Bacterial_diseases/endometritis.PDF
Aftercare from a spay is very easy; the most important thing is to check those stitches every few hours to make sure bunny is not pulling them out. I'd do this for the whole first week.
---
Hello Teri,
Thank you for sharing this info with me. I was very nervous about the operation but I felt that it was unfair to my little Topi to drag her through all this discomfort and pain. So today we'll be seing the vet and probably get the operation.
It was really helpful for me to know that there are examples of bunnies getting hysterectomies later in life and surviving. I'm a strong believer that good care and love works wonders in healing process, and I hope I'm right and my girl will get better soon.
Ipek & Topi
---
Dear Ipek,
I'm glad you were able to talk to your vet. When Bunkie had her operation same as yours done, I kept phoning the vet's office and asking about my baby. They wouldn't let me see her which is understandable because they look frightening to us because we don't get to see them in that state. Bunkie looked like Kieth Richards from the Rolling Stones because she was so....stoned looking? LOLOL I stayed up VERY late to make sure she went toilet and drank some water. Then--when I wanted to pick her up I gently put a towell under he and used it like a hoist up so her weight was even and her stitches weren't upset.
But most bunnies recover faster than Bunkie did. You will have trouble keeping her still! All the best, Teri Bunkie and Maddox
---
I'm glad you have trust in your vet, that is very important.
My only suggestion is to make sure she is going to recover well from the surgery, is it worth it? Will she have more good days than bad? I hope the answer to both of these will be YES!
You are in our thoughts and prayers, keep us updated on everything.
Liz in Massachusetts
Cinder - the Lion Head
Lily - the Flemish Giant
Topi bugün veterinerde
Pyometra teşhisi üzerine Topi'yi Istanbul Üniversitesi Veterinerlik Fakültesine götürmeye karar verdik. Veteriner hekim Hasan Sontaş bugün Topiciği muayene edecek (ultrason ve kan testi) ve gerekli görürse rahim ve yumurtalıkları alacak. Şu an Topi ve babam yolda olmalılar. Ben de endişeli şekilde internette hastalık hakkında yazı okumaya devam ediyorum. Umarım kimsenin ihtiyacı olmaz ancak dünyanın bin türlü hali var gördüğünüz üzere, fırsattan istifade çok beğendiğim bu siteyi herkese öneriyorum:
http://www.medirabbit.com/
http://www.medirabbit.com/
4 Kasım 2009
Denizli
29 Ekim tatili için Denizli'deydim ve orada da tabii ki tavşan buldum. Bu cici beyaz tavşan arkadaşımızın çiftliğinin sakinlerinden. Bundan daha evvel de hamile kalmış ama eşi erkek tavşan hiç rahat bırakmadığı ve sürekli çiftleşmek istediği için neredeyse 10 defa düşük yapmış! Bu yüzden bebekler gelene kadar erkek tavşanı başka bir çiftliğe almışlar geçici olarak. Klübesi tam olması gerektiği boyutta, istediği kadar taze sebze, yeşllik, mis gibi temiz hava, saman... Keşke benim de böyle güzel bir çiftliğim olsa ve tavşan yetiştirsem!
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